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, and a deficit of $1.4 trillion to $1.6 trillion per year. we're spending $1.6 million per year than we're bringing in. >> you've accused the president of using scare tactics. what do you mean by that? do you think he's lying about what could happen? >> the thing is, you know what, first of all it's not congress that determines if we default. it's the treasury so i guess that would be secretary timothy geithner if he's still there. it would be the treasury that would decide but we have enough money to pay the interest on our debt, i believe it's $2.5 trillion comes into the treasury every year. that's enough money to pay the interest on the debt. we're not going to cut off payments to seniors on their social security and medicare, and then the military -- >> you saw what happened the last time when we argued about the debt ceiling. our credit rating was downgraded. that is partisan gridlock. >> that is a massive amount of debt. >> it was because of partisan gridlock. >> i disagree. >> and congress not being able to get its act together. we've seen what can happen. >> congress needs to g
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